All MetalShaping

Go Back   All MetalShaping > Metal Shaping Projects > Automotive Projects
  Today's Posts Posts for Last 7 Days Posts for Last 14 Days  

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1741  
Old 04-07-2021, 09:27 PM
Jack 1957's Avatar
Jack 1957 Jack 1957 is offline
MetalShaper of the Month Dec . 2016, Sept 2019 Metal Shaper Of The Year 2021
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Strongsville,OH
Posts: 1,131
Default

I need to replace the original exterior door switches. The CTS had electronic touch pads rather than mechanical door handles. The originals (Pictured split open on the right) were too big to use so I need to replace them with the smaller momentary push button switches
The problem is, the original performed two separate functions. Most likely when pressed the switch activated the door latch and also activated the drop down feature for the side window.

After studying the printed circuit on the original, it was clear that the engineers wanted these two circuits to remain isolated from each other while at rest. Only to be connected when the button is pushed.
In order to get function without sacrificing form, I needed to separate the switch from the actuator.n I'll use a 16mm momentary push button mounted in the mirror stands, then a couple relays inside the door to keep the two circuits separated unless activated.


Name:  1996.jpg
Views: 818
Size:  84.3 KB


This is what I came up with. Typically, a relay is used to convey a heavier load on the power side (+) but in this application the switching is done by connecting or disconnecting the ground (-). You can see in my crude diagram below that there is 12v+ going into the relay coil, through it, and to ground-. This activates the coil creating an electromagnet which pulls the contact across from it and completes the circuit. The 12v+ that activates the magnet never comes in contact with anything else. The wires connected to the other side are isolated and can be either positive or ground. Whatever is needed. I used two separate relays so that the two ground feeds never come in contact with each other unless the button is pushed and connects both of them to chassis ground.



Name:  1997.jpg
Views: 758
Size:  52.5 KB


This is the new rig that will replace the original touch pad.


Name:  1998.jpg
Views: 666
Size:  116.7 KB


Button locations on both sides. Discrete but easy access.


Name:  1999.jpg
Views: 697
Size:  57.1 KB




Name:  2000.jpg
Views: 689
Size:  93.6 KB


Both mirrors finished and installed. The rest will be tied in inside the door.


Name:  2001.jpg
Views: 679
Size:  78.0 KB




Name:  2002.jpg
Views: 686
Size:  69.0 KB
__________________
Jack

Set a Goal So Big That You Can't Achieve It Until You Grow Into The Person That Can.

Last edited by Jack 1957; 04-07-2021 at 09:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #1742  
Old 04-08-2021, 12:43 AM
chrisnz chrisnz is offline
MetalShaper of the Month July 2021
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Te Puke, New Zealand
Posts: 186
Default

Great solution to another problem. Is locking the car on a remote?
__________________
Chris Woolley
Reply With Quote
  #1743  
Old 04-08-2021, 06:50 AM
Jack 1957's Avatar
Jack 1957 Jack 1957 is offline
MetalShaper of the Month Dec . 2016, Sept 2019 Metal Shaper Of The Year 2021
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Strongsville,OH
Posts: 1,131
Default

Nothing has changed with the latches or locks. Lock from inside the vehicle with the buttons on the power window switch. Lock or unlock from outside with the fob.
__________________
Jack

Set a Goal So Big That You Can't Achieve It Until You Grow Into The Person That Can.
Reply With Quote
  #1744  
Old 04-08-2021, 03:34 PM
red baron's Avatar
red baron red baron is offline
MetalShaper of the Month Novenber 2011, March 2017
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Fallbrook, Ca
Posts: 392
Default

Raymond posted a woody cadillac that I think is super interesting as well.
__________________
Mike Mettelka

Mettelka Craft Metalshaping

Wanted, 41 Cadillac Fleetwood
Reply With Quote
  #1745  
Old 04-08-2021, 04:30 PM
Jack 1957's Avatar
Jack 1957 Jack 1957 is offline
MetalShaper of the Month Dec . 2016, Sept 2019 Metal Shaper Of The Year 2021
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Strongsville,OH
Posts: 1,131
Default

This one?

Name:  1947_bentley_woody_by_raymondpicasso_by_raymondpicasso-db9lqx8.jpg
Views: 3324
Size:  43.1 KB
__________________
Jack

Set a Goal So Big That You Can't Achieve It Until You Grow Into The Person That Can.
Reply With Quote
  #1746  
Old 04-08-2021, 09:50 PM
NDM NDM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Midwest
Posts: 65
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack 1957 View Post
Go out and wait by your mailbox.
What the hell Jack? I have been waiting outside for 8 days since I read this. It rained on me all day today. I am beginning to think that you may have been kidding about waiting by the mailbox.
__________________
Norman
Reply With Quote
  #1747  
Old 04-09-2021, 11:42 AM
snedboy snedboy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Scotland
Posts: 27
Default

This one?




Funny. My first thought was Rolls Royce
__________________
Paul

Last edited by snedboy; 04-09-2021 at 11:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #1748  
Old 04-11-2021, 04:17 AM
red baron's Avatar
red baron red baron is offline
MetalShaper of the Month Novenber 2011, March 2017
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Fallbrook, Ca
Posts: 392
Default

No its one that he did a while back but got reposted.... I'm having trouble uploading it to the forum.
__________________
Mike Mettelka

Mettelka Craft Metalshaping

Wanted, 41 Cadillac Fleetwood
Reply With Quote
  #1749  
Old 04-11-2021, 10:00 PM
Jack 1957's Avatar
Jack 1957 Jack 1957 is offline
MetalShaper of the Month Dec . 2016, Sept 2019 Metal Shaper Of The Year 2021
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Strongsville,OH
Posts: 1,131
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by red baron View Post
No its one that he did a while back but got reposted.... I'm having trouble uploading it to the forum.



Ask him to do it as a two door wagon.



Name:  20210410_064751.jpg
Views: 895
Size:  19.7 KB
__________________
Jack

Set a Goal So Big That You Can't Achieve It Until You Grow Into The Person That Can.
Reply With Quote
  #1750  
Old 04-12-2021, 07:48 AM
Kerry Pinkerton's Avatar
Kerry Pinkerton Kerry Pinkerton is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Near Huntsville, Alabama. Just south of the Tennessee line off I65
Posts: 8,321
Default

Jack, this whole build is just amazing. I've (We've) never before had a chance to follow a day to day build of a Riddler class vehicle. I was keeping up with all the sheet metal and body work but the number of details and the way you worked them out is just stunning to me. World class car you are building Jack. WORLD class!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack 1957 View Post
I think the 49 parts might have just been nickel plated originally. Not sure when they started using chrome.
I had a 1950 Imperial Limo that had dull chrome and solid nickel interior door trim. The bumpers were much duller than standard chrome. The same was true for an original 50K mile Imperial sedan I bought from the original owner. I believe it was called Korean War Chrome. I was told that Chromium was a necessary war product and in limited supply to the commercial world.

Regardless, it is an amazing accomplishment. I hope to see it in person some day.
__________________
Kerry Pinkerton
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.