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Old 06-14-2022, 05:42 PM
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I picked this up from a shop that used to do sheetmetal work, along with some bead rollers and a Pullmax P13.

It's some form of edge 'crimping' machine I suppose. Can anyone describe it's purpose better than that?

I haven't powered it up yet, but it looks fairly simple. I expect it would put waves in a tipped edge/flange, but I'm not sure why the working part isn't flust with the machine table.

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Old 06-14-2022, 06:56 PM
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G'day Trevor, I think you are on the money. Looks suspiciously like a machine I saw a few decades ago for crimping the end of wood stove flue sections.
I hope you are not too cold across the ditch to get out in the shed.
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Old 06-14-2022, 10:50 PM
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I have a heater for when it gets too chilly.
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Old 06-15-2022, 01:52 PM
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It looks like it’s a Shorte, or Oliver, power flanger. The serrations on the wheels are more for grip than creating crimps. I had one similar a few years ago but sold it as it seemed to have limited uses to me. They run at constant speed, which is fairly quick, so you have to pay attention whilst feeding the workpiece through. You can also only create a relatively small flange on the workpiece so that was a limiting factor. Finally, those serrations can chew the job up and make it look nasty.

If it didn’t cost you a lot, and you have the space to keep it, hang on to it as you might get some use out of it. If not, I’d sell it and use the money to buy tools that you will use.

If it is one of the makes I've named, on the front right corner of the top plate there’s a small piece fixed to the underneath with a small gap. This allows you to pre-bend the workpiece to allow you to feed it into the rollers.

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Old 06-15-2022, 05:32 PM
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:26 PM
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It looks like it’s a Shorte, or Oliver, power flanger. The serrations on the wheels are more for grip than creating crimps. I had one similar a few years ago but sold it as it seemed to have limited uses to me. They run at constant speed, which is fairly quick, so you have to pay attention whilst feeding the workpiece through. You can also only create a relatively small flange on the workpiece so that was a limiting factor. Finally, those serrations can chew the job up and make it look nasty.

If it didn’t cost you a lot, and you have the space to keep it, hang on to it as you might get some use out of it. If not, I’d sell it and use the money to buy tools that you will use.

If it is one of the makes I've named, on the front right corner of the top plate there’s a small piece fixed to the underneath with a small gap. This allows you to pre-bend the workpiece to allow you to feed it into the rollers.

Hope that helps.
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Has a Shorte engineering label on it. I don't see a slot for starting the bend.

I'll power it up an some point and see how it goes, but probably won't keep it long term as it takes up a fair bit of space. I didn't pay much for it, came with a larger log of bead rollers.
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:24 PM
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Trevor, I can't use it based on a precisely drawn line or distance from the edge. I can't do it exactly where I need it. In bead roller, I'm slow but accurate.
It's great for piping and productivity is great. I'll probably sell it.
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Old 06-16-2022, 05:52 PM
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It appears to be a machine for putting flanges on ductwork so it’s likely rated for only 24 or 22 gauge sheet…… maybe even 20 gauge but it’s all only a guess on my part. All sheet metal machines have gauge ratting tags on them when new but many get lost thru the years. ~ John Buchtenkirch
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Old 07-08-2022, 11:40 PM
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Thanks all for you help. I took the head apart and cleaned it up. The driving gears are a bit worn (it's been well used I'd say), but it does work.

The ones I see for sale in the UK are rated at 16g so I assume this one is too.

Will see if I can sell it on, otherwise it might end up as a handy bench/cabinet for something else.

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I do really need the space though to get a bit of elbow room between these two.

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