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Old 02-27-2012, 02:44 PM
invision invision is offline
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Is that a money maker or just a hobby.

There is a serious amount of not only skill, but determination and vision going on there.

It makes me feel a little underwhelmed by my own project. I seriously need to step it up a bit!

But then again.. My little project posted here is being built for the Grassroots Motorsports 2012 (hopefully) dollar challenge.. It is buy, build and race the car for less than 2K.. It is an autocross, drag and show competition... no tube frames or custom built hardware allowed... (kinda)... Just radical engine swaps.. and grassroots engineering.

Supposed to be production based cars.. but all they are looking for is good editorial. So some rules are bent from time to time. ...

Thanks for the thumbs up Ron. This project is just a hobby for me...call it therapy for every day life :P

As I was nearing the end of building the first one - Rhythm - there were a few things that I already wanted to do differently. And rather than cut up what I had almost finished, I made the decision that the changes would have to take place in the next one. Otherwise...well the project would never reach completion.

As for the skill, as you have experienced yourself with your build that comes with just working away at something till you're happy with the results. I think you've done a awesome job with your mid-engine Daytona. Great idea to use an existing front sub-frame assembly and graft it into the rear. Then after locking the tie rods, everything you need is all there. I can't tell from the photos and I'm sure you've crossed this bridge already, but did you check the geometry for the 'bump steer symptom' before locking the tie rods?

Once your Daytona is painted, it'll take a really good eye to spot the fact that it didn't come this way from the factory. I hope that you also have a great time at Grassroots!

Thanks again for sharing it on the forum.

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Old 02-27-2012, 02:57 PM
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SO that is just a HOBBY

Wow...

Looks like a bunch of fun... But you already know that..



Daytona Front clip in the the back of 85 Charger BTW... (daytona stuff shares the famous K car platform.. the Charger "L" body stuff is same design.. but different.. The daytona stuff uses a wider track.. by about 2 inches.. )


and yes.. for now the Rack has been disassembled and welded in place.. It would work alright for a fun street toy as I made sure to at least preserve the factory geometry.

the problem is the factory Geometry is 'designed' for the front of the car.. and well.. Lets just say they dealt with many compromises and the bean counters won just a few to many times. Not all bad because it means until scrap steel went way up there were plenty of cheap parts around.

I have altered the "anti dive" under braking geometery of the Lower control arm and made that into a very slight 'anti squat' setup.. and made some crude adjustment to dial that all in..

and I have plans to make the toe link adjustable in several directions. Studying the MR2.. 88 fiero vs 87 models.. Even pulled a Boxster in the shop and took lots of measurements... And you would be really surprised at the amount of toe in/out in some of these designs..


Then of course trying to balance Roll centers with a strut design which... well... It makes it tough to end up with the kind of track machine I am hoping to end up with...




The trouble is my projects often suffer from the "Paralysis of Analysis." and then I end up diverting from the project to work harder to swing the extra tools I now "need" which I didn't even know existed... yada yada yada...


Replacing the cheapo welder this week.. So I can soup up a HF bead roller and then GET TO WORK...
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:09 PM
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Ahh yes ... Charger. I did see the emblem on the hatch...dunno why I said Daytona.

btw ... we never have enough tools. hehe

Why don't you start up a build thread showing the metal work you've done on your Charger...got it right this time... Will be cool to see your design/build process.

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Old 02-27-2012, 03:18 PM
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Will be cool to see your design/build process.

Cheers!




yep... uunnnhhuunnn errrrr...


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Old 02-27-2012, 03:56 PM
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Welcome to the site Ron
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Old 02-28-2012, 01:06 AM
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Peter... Thanks for the youtube videos.. I had seen those sometime ago... and they were quite interesting..

You have some DVD's you sell?
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:05 AM
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Peter... Thanks for the youtube videos.. I had seen those sometime ago... and they were quite interesting..

You have some DVD's you sell?

HI Ron yes I do have dvd's, at the moment series 1/ 2/ and3 on basic skill
also 4/ 5/ and 6 on advance, in the near future I will have series7/ 8/ and 9 wich is to do with the making of the HK Monaro quarter. If you like you can email me or pm for more information Thank you
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