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RockHillWill 11-13-2018 02:57 PM

Kent White's Camp visiting Rock Hill, S.C.
We have finally got the scheduling figured out from the delay caused by the hurricane a few weeks ago. Jimmy Matthews has scheduled a private class to be given by Kent and it is being held here at the Redneck Ranch. Class will be centered around the different types of welding as Jimmy's business has a need to several types of welding and brazing to be done, and I am interested in learning more about silver soldering. We will be concentrating on predominantly gas welding and have at our disposal four gas welding sets, 3-Mecco torches and 1- Henrob unit, all equipped with Kent White gauges, hoses and hardware. I am hopeful that we will also be able to tap into Kents experience in varying his wheeling machine technics in accordance to the type of wheeling machine that he encounters in his consulting workshops. I am particularly interested in continuing our discussions regarding the application of roller bearings vs ball bearings in the lower anvils and Kents approach to determining the transition radii on anvils with flats, perhaps the most important decision in anvils using flats. I will post pics as available.

Jimmy and I will be picking Kent up early in the morning, and after a stop at a convenient Waffle House for grits and eggs, will be headed to the Rick Hendricks race shop in Concord, N.C. for a tour of the fab shop and hopefully get a look at Mr. Hendricks personal car collection and restoration facility. Pictures may not be available from this visit. Lunch is scheduled at the NASCAR Hall of Fame where we will see Dan Simone, the new curator there. He was kind enough to provide full access passes for us, and I am hoping to display some skills in the race car simulators. I have some vintage racing articles for Dan. Pictures may follow from that visit.

longyard 11-13-2018 05:08 PM

Wow! That's going to be a very informative "camp". Please take notes and pass 'em on.

crystallographic 11-13-2018 05:28 PM

Redneck Round - Up - KUDOS
Just finished up the AV portion of the presentations. Showed some new AH "straightening nasty steel damage" footage to the Air Hammer class and they were "riveted" to the screen.
Going to be an "info-heavy" class, I think.
Really looking forward to this - knowing the "Round-up" is passing into history, makes me really aware of how important it is to store this info for future craftsmen.
I REALLY enjoyed the Roundup, last time. Huge effort, great folks, well-organized, super friendly, and great talent all came together in a classic "builder" fashion.

All viewpoints being accepted and considered make for a sincere learning event - something increasingly rare in this "sensitive" age we are going through now.
My sincere appreciation for your efforts and your wonderful supporting circle of friends, Will.

See you in a few hours -



Chris_Hamilton 11-13-2018 07:58 PM

Sounds like it's going to be fun. :cool: Wish I could be there.

RockHillWill 11-16-2018 08:47 PM

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It's been VERY hectic around here. Kent came early and Jimmy Matthews and I picked him up at the Charlotte airport and headed straight to the Rick Hendricks motorsport racing complex. They have over 600 employees and I bet we saw most of them. A gentleman named Ron Reedy that used to work for me has been at Hendricks for 23 years and is in charge of building the chassis and hanging the bodies on all four of the Hendricks race teams. They had all the cars ready for the championship season ending race in Homestead, Florida and our timing could not have been better. Normally, you are not able to take any pictures but Ron allowed us to take a few pics of the chassis & metal shop as there were currently no cars being worked on. This room houses six race car assembly plates and body hanging templates. Kent, Jimmy and I were given the tour of ALL buildings including their R&D building, motor machining and assembly and dyno rooms. It was estimated that at this time there were about 2,000 race motors being worked at this particular time. (That's correct-2,000). We also the main shop where all four race teams are housed. Of special interest was the visit to Rick Hendricks personal car collection. It is open to the public only two days a year and you have you be escorted. Ron was able to arrange for one of the tour guides to come and unlock the door to his entire collection and the three of us got a personal tour of not only the entire first floor of the collection but an invite to see the upstairs that had a giant collection of famous guitars, most of witch were autographed and many were housed two feet below a large glass floor. It made me nervous to walk on top of that glass with all the guitars underneath. Again, no pictures were allowed, but Jimmy Matthews had a friend that had built all the wooded display cases and Jimmy had seen them before. I did find a link to the museum:

We ate lunch at the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte and met with Dan Simone, the curator of the museum. I had previously arraigned a meeting with him to provide two additional items for display in the Dale Earnhardt, Sr. display. After several years they finally got my name spelled correctly. We had unlimited passes for the museum including the ability to drive the simulators and we took full advantage of that and drove over and over. Both Kent and Jimmy placed better than me in the final rundown, but I had the best excuses! You had to practice for the simulators on a series of computer displays before actually getting into the race cars, and I am certain that my training computer was in need of repair!!!

We have been extremely busy getting more machines and welding stations brought to the shop. We are set up today with four gas welding stations and determined early that one of my stations needed to have one of Kents acetylene filter added as it was determined that poor quality of acetylene was downgrading the appearance in the finished weld on the .060" 3003H14 that we were using. We have been hard at work today making paper patterns, layout cutting, et. al. that is part and parcel for some of the newer class attendees, but we all quickly got to work. In addition to the four gas welding stations, we have at our disposal two fabricated wheeling machines, two of Peters wheeling machines, a Mechammer, a power hammer and two power shrinkers and a P7, and a new Kent White power hammer. I only mention the equipment to share the fact that at one point today,every one of the machines was used in making aluminum panels in preparation for hopefully some gas welding tomorrow. Of particular interest to me was Kent's power hammer. I had earlier acquired one, and at the last Redneck Roundup Kent showed how quick it was to SHRINK metal using his machine. I was initially uncommitted, but today I watched first hand as Kent took a piece of flat .060" aluminum and shrunk a corner of a speedster grill panel into correct shape and increased the thickness by 25%, from .060" to .078" thick. He was able to set the machine to not only rapidly shrink the metal, but by using his custom pedal he was able to make single hits as well, and his choice of design and as yet un-released choice of upper and lower die material was an impressive display to witness. This machine has a #1/2, a #1, a #2 and a #5 air motor, but this work was done with the #2 motor installed. Kent was able to use a linear stretch die in the middle of a panel to raise the center while turning down the edges. Again, sorry for the lack of photos, but Kent has had all of us 'wide open', starting early and working late, every body with their own project.

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sblack 11-18-2018 01:38 PM

Sorry for the thread drift but Kent I see the horrific fires we are seeing are along the same valley as Nevada city. I hope your place is safe.

RockHillWill 11-19-2018 08:36 PM

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Sorry for the delay in posting pictures, but we have been VERY busy. Kent runs a very tight ship and an extensive learning environment. We have all stayed busy with actual training exercises, practice sessions alum with accompanying visual aids. Here are a few pictures in no particular order. Perhaps some more descriptions will be forthcoming.

Kent shared his experience in the recreation of the Howard Hughes H1 airplane build.
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We cut triangular witness openings in the paper patterns
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Kent sharing some basics about his planishing hammer before demonstrating the shrinking capabilities.
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A sample of aluminum brazing
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Kent was kind enough to upgrade my previous work at the corners of my speedster nose by increasing the thickness at the corners. They had been 'metal finished' to about .025 and he restored the thickness to the original .060"
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This tapered dollies was used in that project.
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View of back side of nose insert panel
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View of finished front side at corner
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These are examples of the die sets Kent has developed to be able to use this power hammer to shrink metal panels. I saw him raise a .060" panel to .078" in thickness. Shown are the die set of softer metals on the left and for use with harder panels on the right.
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Chris Mathews was quick to pick up on the flat panel aluminum welding process.
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RockHillWill 11-20-2018 07:17 AM

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Here are a few more before we head out for the #96 Gaunt brothers and Front Row Motorsports race shops. These are mostly related to the aluminum welding section of the 4-day class.

Assortment of projects on first day.
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Kent showing proper adjustment of torch.
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Kent showing planishing technics to Jimmy, Chris and Jay Matthews
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Pete Hypio, Dominic Manera, Roy Epps and Jay Matthews views torch adjustments.
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Pete preparing for aluminum welding practice.
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Chris Matthews, Jimmy Matthews, Dominic Manera, Jay Matthes and Jason Carliss look on.
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Kent showed a video showing how he used a 'one shot' hammer, his planishing hammer and heat to restore a BADLY damaged prop spinner.
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A typical example by many at the end of the first day.
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Chris Matthews on his way to some very nice work .
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Jimmy Matthews practicing on flange fusion welding.
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Jimmy and Chris well on their way in the aluminum welding class section.
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Jay Matthews getting ready to start practicing his aluminum welding.
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Roy Epps practicing his welding.
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Jay Matthews and Jason Carliss comparing notes.
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Roy, Pete and Kent discussing aluminum welding and the flavoe of Tostitoe's.
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Even old men need training as well!
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Kent and Jason having a chat.
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The Matthews boys.
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Dominic Manera applying flux to get started.
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Peggy took this photo of me taking notes from Kent's explanations.
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RockHillWill 11-20-2018 06:51 PM

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These are some pics of assorted metal shaping that was being done.

Chris and Jimmy Matthews working on Ben Von Berlo's mechammer
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Pete Hypio fitting a panel to the speedster front nose buck.
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Kent installed shearing dies in the P7 and made it very quick for Pete and others to cut contoured shapes and panels.
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Pete and Jay Matthews fit side panel to speedster nose buck.
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Kent sharing feedback regarding the shrinking that he did on his power hammer to fit the corner panel on the speedster buck.
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Kent is showing the 'Matthew Boys' how to shrink the edges on the Model A fender well that they were making.
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Jimmy and Chris check the fit after using the shrinking dies in the hammer.
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RockHillWill 11-20-2018 07:40 PM

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I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of information and knowledge Kent has regarding the use of the wheeling machine. I asked him to share it with us all as I have a continuing interest in the working of that particular machine and was exposed to more knowledge that I was expecting. Jimmy Matthews is shown here.
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Kent was particularly informative about making sure that you understand the metallurgical elements of the material that you are working with so that you can make a knowledgeable decision as to how to approach the method used for the style of wheeling machine that you have available. Jason Carliss and Jimmy Matthews look on.
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He was particularly informative about the importance of using a stronger machine with flats on the lower anvils as the strength/hardness of the material being wheeled is increased, and that the transition radius was important and the use of roller bearing as opposed to the more common ball bearings was critical as well. He said that panels can be made from any combination of wheeling machine.
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Here he is showing the importance of nice tracking and the understanding of tracking patterns as well as edge control.
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Jason Carliss and Dominic Manera are using the shrinking dies in Kents power hammer to turn the edges on the side panel of the speedster tail section.
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Kent is explaining the approach to use when shrinking the edges of Jimmy and Chris Matthews Model A fender well.
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Kent at work showing us all how fast these new shrinking dies work steel as fast as aluminum.
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He could hardly contain himself as he shares how quick he was able to put these two reverses in this panel. About three minutes.
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This is the panel.
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Kent is sharing the wide range of dies that he has designed for this hammer over the many years of development.
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