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Old 05-15-2014, 08:09 PM
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David, You are still young, wait until you get a little older and your eyes start needing help seeing. Welding becomes a real chore when you start loosing your depth perception and additional light is required.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:13 PM
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The reflection in the first pic is the background in the second pic with the blue sticks on either side of the raw wood piece and the horizontal bands making the rest of the reflection.

just awesome.

Thanks for the pics and words as inspiration and tutorial.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:33 AM
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David, You are still young, wait until you get a little older and your eyes start needing help seeing. Welding becomes a real chore when you start loosing your depth perception and additional light is required.
Thanks for your comment Joe. I never intended to put down what others do I just want to encourage younger people to learn. The thing I here more than anything is "I want to learn the English Wheel" thats in this country too. Like the wheel makes panels and all you have to do is push the metal through and a nice shiny panel comes out the other side. I have seen several posts on this and other forums of panel sections being made, the person making a pretty nice job of shaping simple parts and laying them together but that is the last you see. I believe that is because they have given no thought to where is the best place to put the joint, what is the best method to join the panel and all the other important things. They have not taken the time to learn the skills needed before they start to shape panels. they have no idea how to remove the distortion once it occures and become disillusioned and give up.

I unfortunately have all the things you mention to look forward to in the not too distant future but I would like to pass on some skills before I go.

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Old 05-16-2014, 03:36 AM
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The reflection in the first pic is the background in the second pic with the blue sticks on either side of the raw wood piece and the horizontal bands making the rest of the reflection.

just awesome.

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Thank you Doug. Glad you like it. You are right I can see it now. the two sticks are the frames of my shrinker stands.

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I made this section in three parts, rather than build another wheeling machine and buy an Echold. I dont know how it would be possible to create the swage (peak) in the wing if it was all made in one piece.



as I said before I put joints where the panel changes shape. I made it in manageable sized pieces, this enables me to wheel the shapes quickly, have a good finish on the panel and by welding in the way I do I do not have a massive amount of dressing out to do to metal finish the welds. My welds are placed where they will not distort the swage around the perimiter of the wing, infact there is very little distortion at all.

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Next I marked out the possition of the side pieces. I marked them the same way as I showed earlier, then trimmed them with snips to my scribed line.



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Old 05-16-2014, 01:01 PM
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These were then welded in place using gas welding.



The only tools used to get the wing to this stage is a wheeling machine a scriber a ruler, (straight edge) snips, a cheap chinese shrinker and gas welding gear.

I used my Pullmax for the swage around the perimeter, this is the most complex part of the wing. If your wings dont have this you would only need the tools I list above

Notice the complete absence of shrinking marks, most of the areas that I shrank have been trimmed off.

As I said earlier I put the weld far enough into the panel that the outer swage remains undistorted. It also allows for room to dress the weld without damaging the swage.




I gradually added sections to build up the wing. One part at a time, the possition of each joint is carfully thought out and the sections used are all pre- planned to enable me to make the wing in an efficient way and get a good result. I use just an ordinary wheeling machine to make my parts I do not use and special tools or machines. I just do it the old fashioned way.



It is possible to see how little distortion is caused in the photo above. The undercut will all but disapear when the weld is dressed.



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Very nice work David, I appreciate the time you spend documenting your work and sharing the results.
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Thanks Richard.

I forgot to say that the welds above are just as they were finished absolutely no dressing or smoothing has been done at all at this stage.

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Old 05-16-2014, 03:52 PM
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David, how did you make the front wing edge on this, I can't get my head around it, it curves and bends always, but also the swage line locks the shape in, so would be difficult to manipulate afterwards?
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