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Old 01-25-2016, 02:36 PM
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Good one Paul.

How about sewing the fingers and thumb shut just behind where they meet the hand and then cut off the fingers. Fill and then sew the top shut.

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Good one Paul.

How about sewing the fingers and thumb shut just behind where they meet the hand and then cut off the fingers. Fill and then sew the top shut.

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Good idea. That should save a bit of work
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I thought I'd bring this back up as well.

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As an alternative to a bag go to Wal Mart or wherever and buy a big ball of that Tac-it or Blu-Tac or whatever it's called. The putty you use to stick memos on the wall. It not only works great instead of a bag it's also good for repoussť work.

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Is that stuff in the stationary department?

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Is that stuff in the stationary department?

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That's the stuff. I keep a ball of it in the shop for beating small parts.

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I'm going to make a couple more panel beaters' bags from 1/16" couch leather. My question is: should I leave the tanned side out, or in? I see most commercial bags are suede finish, but is that just a cheaper way to buy heavy leather? I have a couple bags already, one's suede side out, another's tanned side out. I've used both enough, but cannot tell the difference. However, I am an amateur, so still learning.

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Mark I haven't found any difference in which side is out.

I have found that what makes the biggest difference is how full the bag is packed with what ever you fill it with. Before I start to use the bag I turn it over several times to get the media arranged evenly. Then depending on the shape I am after I use the heel of my hand and massage a slight depression in the center of the bag to get it started. If the depression becomes too wide and is not supporting the work the way I want I will go through that process again to bring the depression back in tighter to the shape I am after.

I have several bags made from different materials, filled with different media, and of different sizes. I find that I choose the bag more by how tightly it is packed more than size or what material is on the outside.

Smaller bowls = tighter bag and larger more flowing shapes = softer bag.

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...I have found that what makes the biggest difference is how full the bag is packed with what ever you fill it with. .. I have several bags made from different materials, filled with different media, and of different sizes. I find that I choose the bag more by how tightly it is packed more than size or what material is on the outside.

Smaller bowls = tighter bag and larger more flowing shapes = softer bag.

Hope this helps.

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It does help, Jere. Experimenting with different fills is exactly what I am trying to do. My latest filling material is Black Diamond blasting media as it has negligible silica content. But how much to fill is always a question, so having a bag relatively full next to one less filled will be good for me. Cost of discarded leather couch is negligible, and using the bag construction method in Ed Barr's very good book Professional Sheet Metal Fabrication, I can make a bag fairly quickly. He uses Velcro closures, so it's easy to change the amount of fill, but if I have several bags with different fill I can feel results immediately.

Sounds like you have different "durometer" bags on purpose. I never thought of that.
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Hi guy, I jut wanted to chime in. I had a bag made yesterday 18x18in sq. Now I see that folks used steel bird shot, silica beads or sand. Has any one considered cat litter.
Also what type of sand is best to use. Thanks in advance...GM
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