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Kent... this reminds me of the saying among old Bridgeport milling machine guy's: "better off dead, than tilt the head" 😂 |
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Yep, and not just a few other machines like being messed with, once set.
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I had a Magee at one time and after I realized how tooling intensive it was I let it go. A really neat machine but a production machine non the less and I never had any dreams doing runs of wire edged parts. I believe Kent’s John Deere acquaintance could be right on the money timewise for setups. You have to understand he is talking about production work where they don’t want any marking on the metal…….. ideally the parts should be able go straight to paint without any additional metal finishing after being wired. Heck, even a change in metal gauge could require opening up (machining) rolls if you are after that degree of repeatable perfection. On the other hand if we as metal shapers could get a fender wired in under 10 minutes in a Magee machine but had to do say 15 minutes of hand work to make it right, well I think we’d still be pretty happy depending on the final results. That’s my take on it. ~ John Buchtenkirch
P.S. The above kinda reminds me of someone posting “Reverse curves are easy” which was posted well over 10 years ago on another group. The poster had a photo showing the reverse curved panel he had made but it didn’t really have to fit anything in particular. I had to bite my tongue on that one.
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And if you’d like to see them wiring fenders on Magee machines at the Ford plant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfAJAUfuqAg
it starts at 2.49 but don’t blink . Notice how close together the machinery is, obviously before OSHA had anything to say about it. ~ John Buchtenkirch
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What is that they are doing at 5:39 on the video? Looks like the same thing.
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Hi Carl 180,
These may be of some help. I got curious about the machine and found these as I searched. patents.google.com/patent/US1779974A/en http://allmetalshaping.com/showthread.php?t=16319 TX Mr fixit Chris |
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Yes, thanks, that's even much better footage of them using the Magee machine . ~ John Buchtenkirch
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Here is a better video of one in use. Doesn't help for setup but fun to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Ru5P9rs_U
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Thanks guys thats some great footage i really can not wait to get some time on the machine just being very busy. i will post some pics when i do something of interest
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Hi guys do any of you no the going rate for these machines or what price i should be asking as i have another the same that im going to sell in the near future and have no idea of value or what to compare against.
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