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Old 05-27-2017, 02:27 AM
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Kent,
That looks like just the ticket for what I need. I'll start working on the lathe to make the proper dies.
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Good morning, Bill

That will be a very interesting project to follow. I have used that three man vs adjustable cranking previously on a Pickup upper door jamb, but it was less than 40" long. I would make sure that the three of you practice first and do it right before lunch. Right after lunch the coordination seems to be lacking somewhat.

Is that chassis the one that I would have seen when we attended Ben's Mechammer seminar at your place last year? If so, it was very nicely done and in great detail. Your shop is well equipped and you will enjoy the progress. Take lots of pictures and keep the pictures flowing. Maybe you could even find some local 'yocal' to take the occasional video for you.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:41 AM
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Hey Bill
As you know I've been thinking and working on that body side detail for a while. I have run my finger along under it on a number of cars (risking museum ejection) and talked with people at carrozzeria who have restored these cars so I am convinced that most of this detail is from two parts. The nice smooth form on top, probably rolled in as Crystallgraphic suggests, with the lower panel folded out under it and welded where you can't see it.

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I don't think you will need superleggera if you use .063. Those panels will be really stiff. But maybe that is your idea.

Nice job on the front fascia buck. I don't think there were two of those fronts that were the same and yours looks nice.
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:28 AM
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Many thanks for sharing the insights of how this is being done.
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:56 AM
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Very cool project Bill! That buck looks great as well. I'm really looking forward to watching your progress.
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:36 AM
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Hey Bill
As you know I've been thinking and working on that body side detail for a while. I have run my finger along under it on a number of cars (risking museum ejection) and talked with people at carrozzeria who have restored these cars so I am convinced that most of this detail is from two parts. The nice smooth form on top, probably rolled in as Crystallgraphic suggests, with the lower panel folded out under it and welded where you can't see it.

A couple of other comments:
I don't think you will need superleggera if you use .063. Those panels will be really stiff. But maybe that is your idea.

Nice job on the front fascia buck. I don't think there were two of those fronts that were the same and yours looks nice.
Tim, You're not alone in thinking the "V" was made in two pieces and welded. However, Mark Savory told me that due to the body flexing inherent in the Superleggera process, and the fact that many of the 166s were race cars, welds in .040 or .050 would crack, so it likely wasn't done that way. Kent White's recollections seem to confirm that, too.

You sure are right about the nose! I spent a LONG time trying to find what the "standard" profile was... couldn't find two that were the same.
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Kent, it looks like you need a 2 axis CNC rotary machine.

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Kent, it looks like you need a 2 axis CNC rotary machine.

It would not be that hard to do.
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Old 05-28-2017, 06:04 AM
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1938 Alfa as the same (or Similar) Body ( swage) line did one no long ago
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