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Which is right?
Just getting a little frustrated. I'm looking ahead as to how to recreate the lower valance on this Pinan-Farina bodied car, one I been working on for a while and while I've looked at this a million times I never realized how out of whack it really is.
I just held the form follower to the right side to get the shape and the 2nd pic it's held to the left side and there is nearly an inch of difference between the 2 sides - the entire opening is less than 48" and it has an inch of difference from side to side! How could they be that far off? DSC00615.jpg DSC00617.jpg What to do, copy it asymetrical or make it symetrical, if so, which pattern the left or the right?
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oj higgins |
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You’ve got to determine from the centre datium line where the error starts, a trammel gauge can help, start from a non damaged area of the chassis and check symmetry then move forward.
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The (your) problem OJ is that the car may not have been symmetrical. If you fix that, then nothing else may line up with it. I'd suggest checking other panels to see if they are symmetrical. If they are undamaged and not symmetrical, you pretty much have to either rebuild the car or fix that panel to flow with what was there.
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As far as 'undamaged' panel there isn't a place on this body you can put your hand that didn't need metal work or replacing. Its the reason I haven't done a thread, I didn't want to document exactly how much work this car needed.
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OJ,
Symmetry is not what you get but what you make it. After just 35 restorations, done back when I was a pup, I started to realize that you had to make it look right - but not necessary measure out right. Templates/patterns help determine how far off, but I only need things to look right. Although - I had one tough customer (aviation hall of fame AND automotive hall of fame, and etc etc) who made me template the whole car and make it all symmetric. And re-space all the hundreds of rivets. Tough job, endless nitpicks. --and then there is the optical "conclusion" .... happens when it measures out but never looks right until it is tweaked. sigh.
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oj higgins |
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I don’t know, I can certainly see some knots (collision damage) on the uni-body rail in the upper photo and possibly the lower photo as well. And you also hear stories about coach built cars not being all that accurate. Is the car you are working on mass produced or a coach built low volume deal ? Could the rails be asymmetrical ? Can you possibly find another car to pull profile templates from ? ~ John Buchtenkirch
P.S. This was the kind of thing that put knots in my stomach back when I did collision work…….. gee, I just don’t miss it .
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John |
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I'd include some reference marks or include some existing holes in the pictures. Back off a foot or two on the picture. I don't think the pictures show enough. And I agree, I think both sides have been hit.
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Norm Henderson |
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This car has damage, it was road raced at one time and they must've been learning on it.
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oj higgins |
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Maybe you should temple the side that will cover both.
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