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Old 08-28-2018, 06:31 PM
Peter Tommasini Peter Tommasini is offline
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Thanks, Peter. Figured there might be dowel pin or similar.

So doing some simple math- for those of us who own a frame, it's around $1k to buy the conversion parts/kit from you plus the air motor costs?
The price of the unit depends on how many lower dies ,hammer heads air lines etc are needed. If the frame as not been modified for the hammer unit I will supply the jigs free of charge. Please keep in mind that what you decided is needed from me you need to add the price of the air motor from Kent White unless you use the handbuilt air unit
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:01 PM
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Have you had any thought to an electric motor instead of air thanks bryan
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I have tried a few things while testing the hammer unit, I felt that....... (I also could be wrong?) The electric version was not giving enough ''BANG '' also was too much work in changing the stroke ..I feel that by not having the right stroke..... (again I could be wrong ?) I could not get or overlap the blows properly for a smooth finish, by using the air motor all of these facts above where so much easier to achieve, and after a few weeks of trying and changing a few things around I come up with a unit that REALLY finish a panel just like a wheel and I am very happy with the performance of the unit
As mention before.. by using the hammer... no need for a helper, saves my back , arms and legs, and in some jobs the hammer is quicker than the wheel
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:27 PM
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Bryan
I have tried a few things while testing the hammer unit, I felt that....... (I also could be wrong?) The electric version was not giving enough ''BANG '' also was too much work in changing the stroke ..I feel that by not having the right stroke..... (again I could be wrong ?) I could not get or overlap the blows properly for a smooth finish, by using the air motor all of these facts above where so much easier to achieve, and after a few weeks of trying and changing a few things around I come up with a unit that REALLY finish a panel just like a wheel and I am very happy with the performance of the unit
As mention before.. by using the hammer... no need for a helper, saves my back , arms and legs, and in some jobs the hammer is quicker than the wheel
Peter
Air units are definitely easier to deal with... and simpler... since the units are typically ready to go... minus the mounting. I like the design overall... does the Air unit shape similar to a power hammer? Like say a door skin in a uniform manner? Thanks.
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Old 08-29-2018, 04:02 AM
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Air units are definitely easier to deal with... and simpler... since the units are typically ready to go... minus the mounting. I like the design overall... does the Air unit shape similar to a power hammer? Like say a door skin in a uniform manner? Thanks.
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I am not sure about your question BUT if you mean ''is the unit like a Power hammer'' ..................
Well yes.. not as big, but quite powerful depending on the air motor used... like...N 3 /4/ 5 or up to N 7 I believe ...one of my own unit has been fitted with a modified JACK HAMMER and man ....does it hit hard!!
I can block with it, take down tucks, and yet turn the unit down and finish a panel very smooth, very uniform.... Making door skins ..no a problem as a mater of fact the unit is very good and quick for doors skins simply because there is no need to have someone on the other end (like you would on the wheel)
Peter
PS I hope that was what you where asking?
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Old 08-29-2018, 03:33 PM
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Hi Peter. Could you show one or two pictures of a panel finished by your air hammer. Would be interesting to see the finished results.
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Old 08-29-2018, 05:40 PM
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Hi Peter. Could you show one or two pictures of a panel finished by your air hammer. Would be interesting to see the finished results.
Cheers, Matt
Matt I will post pics of some jobs I am doing at the moment, but better still this weekend I am filming a video on the unit and show the finish there
Peter

Here some pics of the finished panels

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Old 08-30-2018, 04:48 AM
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Wow! I had little idea that such smooth work could be done with a planishing hammer. Very nice Peter, thanks foe sharing.

This machine along with several of your cast wheeling machines will be on display at Oblong this year.

I will also have one or two of your machines available for sale, and anyone that purchases one can have it delivered to Oblong.
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Old 08-30-2018, 06:03 AM
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Will, if & when one of Peter's new kits will be traveling from Ooblong to Rock Hill, please keep us posted.
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:00 AM
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Wow! I had little idea that such smooth work could be done with a planishing hammer. Very nice Peter, thanks foe sharing.

This machine along with several of your cast wheeling machines will be on display at Oblong this year.

I will also have one or two of your machines available for sale, and anyone that purchases one can have it delivered to Oblong.
Will
The handbuilt machine and attachment is far far from a Yoder or a Baileigh power hammers, these machines are very powerful, I would not dare compare my machine to those two ..... but... given the right air motor it could be the next best thing .....................at a fraction of the cost of those machines.............
And the secret is....... dies design
I just wish I could be at Oblong and demonstrate the unit, but I am sure you and Jim and Pat can work it out
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:32 AM
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Pete,
What did you use as the hammer for your build?
Tony
Tony because of the classes I am holding in OZ I have 3 hammers units one is fitted with Kent White air motor N 3 , one with N 5, the other is fitted with a modified Jack hammer.... Big Mother! so I can block, Take walnuts out, and tuck shrink, prior to smooth things off
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