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Old 12-21-2014, 08:37 AM
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Default Assessing Poor Panel Work: 1957 Alfa Giulietta

This is my walk-around of the 57 Giulietta project that came to my shop.

http://youtu.be/QTcoWE_ks7A

I would be glad to hear of any suggestions about going forward on the restoration. I've got to have it back to the owner by May 1.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:18 AM
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Default Well that's going to be a challenge

It will be interesting to see what is left of the car after you get all the problems removed.
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Old 12-21-2014, 12:09 PM
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All I can say is I'm feeling pretty good about myself after seeing that repair.
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:02 PM
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Just watched video.......omg wtf pmsl.
1st May no way
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Wow, that a lot of sh....t ..Bill

Make a jig where you put the car on so it does not move or twist.

To get the right shape in the rear fenders restore them with bondo, make a flex pattern off off that make a new fender, cut the old one out and weld the new one in.

When the car is on a jig you can remove the sills and restore them as they should be.

etc etc

just my two cents.

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Old 12-21-2014, 02:46 PM
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Bill,

There is no lack of shoddy work. I think most collision shops today just do not have the metal craft skills you see presented by the folks on this forum!

I did a 1970 Plymouth Superbird for a friend of mine a while back. Had some bubbling over a rear quarter wheel arch, so thought it was just typical Mopar rust. My friend had the car painted about 12 years earlier and had supplied NOS quarters, so we all thought this was just an small mistake or rust creeping back in. Sent to the paint shop (we just do metal in our shop) and the fun began.

Previous shop had cut the NOS quarter down to be only a skin, brazed in on, banged the weld seam into a valley and filled it with plastic. Paint still looked good 12 years later, save a few bubbles!

Looks like you have the issues figured out and certainly have the skills and desire to repair correctly! I am a big fan and getting the cars on a sturdy jig/table. I built a "frame table"from 3x5 1/4 wall and it has served us very well. Guys in my shop liked it so much, they recently build a second one! We essentially weld the unibody to it while doing the heavy repair work.

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Old 12-21-2014, 03:07 PM
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Wow, that a lot of sh....t ..Bill


just my two cents.

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Ben,
Your "two cents" is worth at least two gold guilders to me!
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Old 12-21-2014, 03:09 PM
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John,
I'd love to have a jigging table. I will be welding in bracing, and the owner is buying me a rotisserie to put the car on. I'm not sure yet how I'm going to attach the body to the rotisserie, because the normal attachments points are missing (bumper brackets) and the underside attachment points are all rusted and will have to be replaced. Yikes!
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Bill,

Send me an email at john@uscartool.com

I manufacture rotisseries and also have a kit with all the fancy parts (I used trailer hubs, spindles and tapered bearings so the cars roll awfully smooth). If you get the kit, you just add square stock tubing and some time and welding (grin).

Mounting to the car can be a challenge, but I would be happy to talk to you about how I do it. I have gotten 100's of cars on rotisseries (no joke, been making and selling them since 2002!).

The Jig table I made is just a rectangle about 3'wide by 16'long. Off the ground at the four corners, maybe 24" or so.

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Bill, if you not have a table for it, set it up horisontal in both directions and make some reference lines with a laser so you know where to measure from on both sides.
Try to replace some major structures and reinforce it with plenty of beams..

If you put it up in a rotisserie when it is weak and maybe out of accuracy you will get serios trouble...

I rescued a alfaromeo convertible , maybe the same year, some years ago who was more or less it two pieces.... Lot lot of thinking before action!

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