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Old 07-11-2013, 12:42 AM
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Dear mr White, hi Kent,

Is the difference between these http://www.phillips-safety.com/glass...s-202-ace.html

And the TM lenses mainly safety wize or mainly in view of the welding process?

I value my eyes very much.

I learned the basics of gaswelding ali with the TM glasses, Meco midget and TM flux. But struggled using normal green lenses and another brand of flux at home. I've upgraded to a Meco Midget, light hoses, a gassafer and TM flux 2 weeks ago. But this exhausted my hobby budget. I understand why a product like the TM lenses are expensive and eyes are the most important thing. But because of the treasure department at home (i call here the oracle :-) ) there is a natural force for seeking alternatives. ;-)

The Meco and the TM flux makes a big difference in my case.

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Old 07-11-2013, 01:22 AM
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Dear mr White, hi Kent,

Is the difference between these http://www.phillips-safety.com/glass...s-202-ace.html

And the TM lenses mainly safety wize or mainly in view of the welding process?

I value my eyes very much.

I learned the basics of gaswelding ali with the TM glasses, Meco midget and TM flux. But struggled using normal green lenses and another brand of flux at home. I've upgraded to a Meco Midget, light hoses, a gassafer and TM flux 2 weeks ago. But this exhausted my hobby budget. I understand why a product like the TM lenses are expensive and eyes are the most important thing. But because of the treasure department at home (i call here the oracle :-) ) there is a natural force for seeking alternatives. ;-)

The Meco and the TM flux makes a big difference in my case.

Kind regards,

Frank
Hi Frank,

I have several sets of Ryan Phillips' product here, and aside from being a primitive appearing product, it does work to a 5 on a scale of 10. Cannot say what the long term exposure would be, but if I am any sort of indication, after 30 years of wearing my TM2000 for days on end, I now need 1.5 reading glasses, age 63. Distance vision is excellent, night vision excellent.
Hope this helps. I spend a lot of time testing my products because I am still an active productive craftsman. I am still producing some very "high end" work, and still work to support my fellow craftsmen, as they permit me.

Good you got the gasaver. I shut off the eternal flame and replaced it with the spark igniter. I should post photos.

Much joy,

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Old 07-11-2013, 08:18 AM
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... I shut off the eternal flame and replaced it with the spark igniter. I should post photos.
GREAT idea Kent! Please start a new thread with some photos.
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Hi Kent,

It's very important for the community that the knowhow of the craftsmen isn't lost.

Many thanks for the help,

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Old 07-12-2013, 03:39 AM
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Hi Kent,

It's very important for the community that the knowhow of the craftsmen isn't lost.

Many thanks for the help,

Frank
Hi Frank,
I am happy to help. The only two reasons I started my little company was to give back what the patient old men gave to me. Frank Cufaude was 74 when I worked with him - lost both his battle tanks in WW1 and became a metalman out of the Army. Others told me I had talent, so I stuck it out. By 1990 I had trade school and tech school instructors calling me to offer encouragement to teach - as apprenticeships were gone and high school shop classes were closing because the machines and tools were "dangerous." sigh.

I say: Celebrate craftsmanship!

And a huge salute to Phil Remington, one of the best craftsmen I ever kept track of. Died two months ago, aged 94. Jack Hagemann, Sr. died last year, aged also 94. His workmanship was unbelievable, and he was a good mentor.

much joy,

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Old 07-12-2013, 04:05 PM
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Great names Kent.

At my place (not related to metalshaping) we have 3 guys in their pension that support us with their knowledge and experience. It's great to work with those guys. Rediscovering the wheel is a nice learning curve but meanly a waste of time. We love to learn from them. And they can play in our shop and lab as much as they like. At their own time and their own pace.

They a also great names in my sort of profession.

Keep on shaping!

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