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Old 12-27-2018, 06:51 PM
Peter Tommasini Peter Tommasini is offline
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I love wray but i would never internally shrink... big mess to clean up.
On the Jaguar fender the idea (theory) was dead right, but there is a different way to apply that exercise on that particular tight and small return with out the mess and keeping the thickness
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:00 PM
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I love wray but i would never internally shrink... big mess to clean up.
Wray and the metalmeet forum were my first introduction to the world of metal shaping. Wray seems like he is always looking for another way to do the job. Very innovative.
I should go take some of his classes
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:04 PM
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I just visited him while passing through christmas eve and we debated tactics. I am a powered equipment guy and he is not. he's a great human. I just dont wanna swing a mallet. haha
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:16 PM
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I just visited him while passing through christmas eve and we debated tactics. I am a powered equipment guy and he is not. he's a great human. I just dont wanna swing a mallet. haha
I live over on the other coast just north of Portland Oregon on the Washington side . I wish some one like Wray or Peter lived near by so I could drop by and take classes
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:24 PM
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But now I do parts 1&2 as separate pieces. I have gotten it a little better
Making a panel in one piece is great if you can do it but it's not big and it's not clever if it's beyond your skill set, and it's certainly not the Holy Grail. Often it's quicker and more efficient to make up a panel in several quality sections then stick them together. I can weld faster than I can wheel.

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Old 12-27-2018, 07:36 PM
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Making a panel in one piece is great if you can do it but it's not big and it's not clever if it's beyond your skill set, and it's certainly not the Holy Grail. Often it's quicker and more efficient to make up a panel in several quality sections then stick them together. I can weld faster than I can wheel.

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I am certainly not the Holy Grail either, but I always look at where the weld is going to be, then decide whether a panel is made in one or several pieces. Some time the weld in the wrong place can be a headache and half
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:44 PM
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I live over on the other coast just north of Portland Oregon on the Washington side . I wish some one like Wray or Peter lived near by so I could drop by and take classes
IF the laws are changed in the US, I will be able to get to the US and teach again. Teaching for me now days is the way to make a small living, but more important to make good friends and share my knowledge so the trade lives on .
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:51 PM
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I am certainly not the Holy Grail either, but I always look at where the weld is going to be, then decide whether a panel is made in one or several pieces. Some time the weld in the wrong place can be a headache and half
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Hi Peter,

I couldn't agree more but making a panel in one is a daunting task unless you're an old pro. You can do it to an incredible standard and hats off to you. I can do it to an acceptable standard but many in here are just starting out. Bite-sized pieces is what I teach my students.

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Old 12-27-2018, 09:09 PM
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Making a panel in one piece is great if you can do it but it's not big and it's not clever if it's beyond your skill set, and it's certainly not the Holy Grail. Often it's quicker and more efficient to make up a panel in several quality sections then stick them together. I can weld faster than I can wheel.

Will
I have to agree with you But trying to teach oneself metal shaping (or any art)at the age of 68 starting from ground zero and getting all ones information on metal shaping from this forum and a few DVD's leaves you mostly with trial and error. lot and lots of error. you have to start the learning process some where. one of the reasons I tried big panels or pieces in the beginning is that I had to teach myself to weld. So over the past year or so I have learned to use MIG reasonably well on sheet metal. But damn MIG welds are hard to work they are just very hard, seem prone to cracking when over worked. many other things. So I was trying to keep my welding to minimum.
Another problem was where do I divide a panel so when I do weld the pieces together I don't create even more work and problems for myself
But it is a learning process and I think I am learning
I just can't make that damn Healey fender yet But I am getting there.

I follow you Tern thread I think your an amazing craftsman.

hope you enjoy my thread as well and I welcome your feedback
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:24 PM
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IF the laws are changed in the US, I will be able to get to the US and teach again. Teaching for me now days is the way to make a small living, but more important to make good friends and share my knowledge so the trade lives on .
Peter
Peter,
Hopefully you make it back over here this coming year.
I should have done what ever it took to get into one or more of your classes the last time you were in the U.S.
I thought there would be time in the future.
I never considered the Visa problems.
I do have all your DVD's though.
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