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Old 04-02-2019, 04:29 PM
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Peter had mentioned doing that but I was a little confused which way to pull..

I ran it back and forth with my flattest wheel running down the side, while the large portion hung downward. Then I pulled it up into the large wheel as I wheeled. I used a fair amount of pressure.

So when you say outward....do you mean grab the long side that's hanging down and pull that outward as to almost unfold the edge?

To explain it easier let's think of an updside down "L" .
I had the short side in the wheel and I was pulling that short side up into the upper wheel as I wheeled. Is that what you mean or grab the long end on the side and pull that outward as to unfold it?

*On a side note, does pushing a piece into the lower anvil while wheeling or pulling it into the upper anvil achieve different things? I've been a little afraid to run a piece through it and make it FUBAR
Rob as mention before simply turn the sides down using a pipe with the right radius turn the sides a bit at the time till you get to the right angle, ... tuck shrink the corner down as you move the sides down. Make sure to have excess metal so you can have a bit of handle to turn the shorter side down.... but have the right amount of metal on the corner so you can tuck shrink (using a wooden stump) , then cut the shorter side to suit , wheel the top to suit and you should be OK.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:10 AM
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Thanks - I tried that and ran it back and forth on the wheel to "release" it. It didn't want to straighten out for whatever reason. . Id be curious to run it through a power hammer of some sort to see if it relaxed. I hit it a lot on the dolly with a planishing hammer and it remained the same.
I don't know how you got to wheel the area I am talking about? Certainly couldn't get a conventional wheel in on the sides up against the flange.
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:11 AM
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I don't know how you got to wheel the area I am talking about? Certainly couldn't get a conventional wheel in on the sides up against the flange.
Here is the second attempt (of 4 ). I never tipped this edge so this is the one I've been wondering how to straighten that line.

I wasn't sure which area to wheel and pull up into the top wheel.
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:14 AM
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Rob as mention before simply turn the sides down using a pipe with the right radius turn the sides a bit at the time till you get to the right angle, ... tuck shrink the corner down as you move the sides down. Make sure to have excess metal so you can have a bit of handle to turn the shorter side down.... but have the right amount of metal on the corner so you can tuck shrink (using a wooden stump) , then cut the shorter side to suit , wheel the top to suit and you should be OK.
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Thanks Peter . I started one this method last night and plan to try and finish it after work tonight.

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Old 04-03-2019, 03:30 PM
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Thanks Peter . I started one this method last night and plan to try and finish it after work tonight.

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A little at the time till the sides are all the way up and try to bend the sides on a piece of pipe with the right radius ,then blend the shape in on the wheel with light pressure by wheeling side ways (NOT length ways) by pulling down lightly using the proper anvil (not too high crown) that will keep the sides flat rather then full like the first attempt
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:22 PM
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That's it!.....................
A little at the time till the sides are all the way up and try to bend the sides on a piece of pipe with the right radius ,then blend the shape in on the wheel with light pressure by wheeling side ways (NOT length ways) by pulling down lightly using the proper anvil (not too high crown) that will keep the sides flat rather then full like the first attempt
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Thanks Peter 😊
Im having trouble attaining the amount of shrink I need. My home made tucking forks have made some damage in the corner. I tend to do longer bigger tucks maybe 2 inches long or less. Should I do smaller and more frequent ones?


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Guys I think I'm going to call it done...

It's not exactly to my design but it will serve it's purpose.

As you can see the flange doesn't follow the original track perfectly, and it's not as deep as I wanted. I had to open the panel up to get closer to the template, which lessened the depth. It also has a small hollow in one section that I'm not quite sure how to fix....I ran the wheel back and forth (short way like Peter suggested) but cant seem to alleviate that low.

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Following Peter's method it certainly is much closer.

Can I ask, if someone hired you to make this piece and gave you the template of where the flange had to land, how would you go about it?

Im trying to figure out how I would do this in the future to ensure my flange lays where I want it. Yes, I pre-mapped it out on the flat blank, so that is likely problematic. I left extra material on the outside of my flange track but as I was shrinking and shrinking I eventually trimmed it down to the line to help get more shrink where I needed it.

Anyway, thank you all very much.

I'm getting really good at making scrap. so frustrating.

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Old 04-05-2019, 08:45 PM
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Got the panel on the truck tonight to test fit. It'll work! Sorry for the bad pictures. Again, thanks everyone for your help.

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Old 04-06-2019, 12:33 AM
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Got the panel on the truck tonight to test fit. It'll work! Sorry for the bad pictures. Again, thanks everyone for your help.

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Rob the important thing here is that you have learned a few methods, tried and persevere with it, and at the end got it ,Like me at my beginning of learning, I try try, try, till I was happy with my exercise and then moved on to another, again and again. That is Metal shaping!
Well done !
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Old 04-06-2019, 07:34 AM
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Looks like good progress, Rob. Way to hang in there and (especially) to take advice seriously. Very cool.
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