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Old 02-13-2012, 05:13 PM
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Thumbs up here, very interested in how you go about this. I was contemplating building a 26/27 roadster body for a dormant project I have here. It might just kickstart my build.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:26 AM
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David if you need any measurements I have a 26T roadster that complete and all bone stock it was my grandfathers first car.


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Thank you, I think I have all the info I need. I have the loan of a tourer body for a few weeks and as I said I have started this project several times over the years. I made a buck for the turtle deck many years ago and I have collected a few original panels to copy. Its good to know that I can find out anything I don't know.

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Thanks to Steve and the others who have shown interest in this project already.
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:19 AM
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Default 27 roadster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlbuC...eature=related

david this is for inspiration
i believe its a27 roadster on 32 rails with a very fast early hemi

i have photos on my computer when i find them i will post them


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YDk...eature=related
see this at 4.30 minutes the roadster comes along
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Cheers Robert, why have those awful air cleaners on that car?. Anyway...

As I said I bought a donor car which has most of the major components for my car.



It has deteriorated between this photo being taken and me buying it. It wasn't running so that was one of the first jobs. Now the motor runs, the parts were stripped off and everything cleaned up. The big stuff is all in good order so just things like the shackles, ball joints brakes and stuff to restore or replace- I won't dwell on that stuff here 'cos its off topic but I thought I would show what I am working with. I have a good friend who is helping with the mechanical and donkey work.

More relevant is the chassis, I want the car to sit low so I modified the rear, kick-up so that I have 4" more clearance than standard. I built the frame narrower to suit the width of the T body. then bent the chassis out again at the firewall position to standard width at the front so that I could fit a model A front cross-member.


Here is a photo showing the stock rear kick-up next to the re-bent rail.



I worked out from drawings the positions and width of things like the firewall the front of the turtle deck etc. I made jig pieces to show me the positions of all these parts...



I could then re-shape the chassis by bending it to fit in these crucial points.


I made a new centre cross-member to fit the chassis but in the style of the 34 cross-member.



This is the basis for my rod and it is the platform on which I will build my body. I know that the chassis is the right dimensions at given points so the body must align with these points also.

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Cheers Robert, the chassis under that car is a model A chassis. Its a nice car but mine will sit lower because it is on a '32 chassis and because I am doing all the things that used to be done to lower the cars in the early fifties. The modifications to the chassis above are what is necessary to make a B chassis fit under a T body. I reshaped the rear chassis area instead of z-ing it. I reshaped the existing metal, I did not fabricate a new rear chassis section. The '34 style crossmember sections are made from one piece, not fabricated so this is metalshaping- heavy metal- I used the same techniques.

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I've been watching your build on the HAMB and here David and I have to say you've been making good progress. I know what you are going through with other projects. I have my model a sitting in the shop where I can see it as I work on everyone elses stuff and it hurts at times....

I have mounts for a Chevy small block in it now, but I picked up a 331 Cadillac for it now, and it will have a 4 speed muncie. My piont is I've been working on it off and on between projects for 3 years or more more off then on.....

It is amazing what you can get done in a week though if you can afford it. Customers are more understanding then you think with your situation wedding and all.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:50 AM
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Hi David,

How did you bend the frame rails ??

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Old 02-16-2012, 02:07 PM
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Cheers Jeff, I will get it done in time for my daughters prom if its humanly possible. I have only had a few hours a week on it up to now, perhaps six or eight. I have far too much work on as well as trying to do this. My biggest problem is that I have so little space. I wish I had a workshop as big as yours!.

Gary that is a subject I will have to leave to another time but like I said I use the same techniques.

After I had got the chassis done to the stage shown I decided to do a bit of bodywork while waiting for the rest of the parts to be ready for a mock up. (fitting new shackles getting a new front spring and dropping my axle etc.) I dragged my buck out of storage and started to make the rear quarter. I have a full buck for the turtle deck but this is one side section...




I made this buck probably eighteen years ago.

I made up some dies for my pullmax and formed a flange on the section I had cut out, put the return in for the inner part of the wheelhouse. (wheelwell) then put the bead in, I was not sure how well this would work because there was nowhere for the metal to come from - no give in the panel. It did not turn out too bad but I got a little distortion.



I will try Jeff's idea for pullmax tools that pre stretch as you put the bead in for the other side.



The section above is all one piece at this stage.

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Looking good David.

Hope you can meet your target date.
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