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Old 02-15-2014, 10:07 PM
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Great tips for the beginner!
But in the second photo it is better to close the fingers, then one will even have more feel then with the fingers open.
Also for the beginner put a tiny magazine paper sheet between the part and hand and you will feel even better.
Nico, very observant, go to the front of the line, you know your s­­__t, the job is yours . Actually the photo is a so called selfie, I’m not left handed and unfortunately not ambidextrous so I was holding the camera with my right hand and trying to get a photo to post. You are right, my fingers should have been closed up for the best feel or read of the panel. Anyway my friend came over today and took a photo of my right hand with fingers closed………. hopefully one of the administrators will use the new photo to update the hand photo in my original post #1.
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For years I’ve heard about feeling panels with a paper towel or cotton shirt under one’s hand. I have tried it and personally never found it that helpful. It’s easy enough to try and so many people have mentioned it, I would suggest everyone should at least give it a try……… remember I said none of this is written in stone. Regardless if you like something under your hand or not you want to get your whole flat hand on the panel, I see guys with years in the collision business feeling panels with only their finger tips and I just have to wonder how much they really know.
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I have also enclosed a photo of how I push my vixen file for those that might not have fully understood my description. I very rarely ever file in line with the file body……. might leave a file edge marks on the panel. Once again I hope a administrator can move the photo to post #1. ~ John Buchtenkirch
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P.S. Sorry I’m late with this post. I spent 6 hours in the skid-steer clearing snow & another hour plus shoveling it. I’m running out of places to put it. Next day I was totally exhausted, at my age there just isn’t as much gas in the tank.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:31 PM
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I always find that if I close my eyes I can feel the panel better. Less distractions for my ADD riddled brain?

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Tom, good point, I’ve been doing that for years. If you’re having trouble feeling a panel close
down the visual sense for more focus on your feeling sense. So your brain is OK or we are both
screwed, maybe we can get a group rate at the Doc . ~ John Buchtenkirch
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:17 AM
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great stuff. I'm accustomed to production style bodywork but this aspect of it in regards to gauging your straightness is something I can identify with. I think it should also be noted that a good hand feel is something that you develop over time. I was taught this by a mentor so I started by going around hand feeling everything. It's a great tool.
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Tom, good point, I’ve been doing that for years. If you’re having trouble feeling a panel close
down the visual sense for more focus on your feeling sense. So your brain is OK or we are both
screwed, maybe we can get a group rate at the Doc . ~ John Buchtenkirch

Doc said no hope for me.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:28 PM
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Where can one get some decent body files like the one above?
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Tin man technologies or Boggs tool and file are the best places.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:56 AM
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Mike, If you are talking about an adjustable auto body file holder there’s usually a dozen or so on eBay almost any time. Try this link http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...Bfile&_sacat=0
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:16 PM
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Thanks for the links I will check them out.
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I sometimes use spray stencil ink for a "guide coat", a light dusting drys quickly and washes off easily with solvent, just remember to shake it well and try not to store it standing upright.(a lot of pigment, it will clog,... I know!...)*
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Thanks,,now I know what a vixen file is,,,time to procure one!
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