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Old 09-19-2018, 07:36 AM
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I did a week long course on wheeling a couple of years ago and bought a wheel with the expectation that I'd get straight into shaping. Circumstances changed and the wheel has gathered dust since. Now I've got time to get some practice at last.

I remember the basics and have been devouring YouTube videos, but I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on good "shapes" to start practicing. (The equivalent of chord patterns and scales.)
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:25 AM
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It's not very romantic but going from flat to curved (specifc shape/pattern or not) to accurate flat again really helped me. Having that capacity to understand and control what happens is the basis of your ability to make what you want to make.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:55 AM
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That was top of my list. (Something that took me a while to grasp on the course.)
Though thinking about it, doing the same with more than just a circular dome would make it a bit more of a challenge.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:57 AM
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I did a week long course on wheeling a couple of years ago and bought a wheel with the expectation that I'd get straight into shaping. Circumstances changed and the wheel has gathered dust since. Now I've got time to get some practice at last.

I remember the basics and have been devouring YouTube videos, but I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on good "shapes" to start practicing. (The equivalent of chord patterns and scales.)



If you can find copies of John Glover's video series on wheeling, those are excellent self-teaching tools. He goes through a variety "simple" shapes, all of which teach you how to form complex shapes.


Lane Nittler might have them: lane.nittler@gmail.com
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:30 PM
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John Glover has a book on English wheeling that has bucks and instructions on wheeling the different shapes. He has a video that uses the bucks. I don’t know who sells his stuff anymore.

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Old 09-19-2018, 02:09 PM
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Good afternoon, Jay.

Here is a link to a Kent White video regarding the use of a wheeling machine:

https://www.tinmantech.com/products/...lish-wheel.php

If you by chance have a cast wheeling machine, keep an eye out for the upcoming Peter Tommasini wheeling machine instructional video. Other Tommasini metal shaping videos are available here:

http://www.handbuilt.net.au/videos.html

Depending on the style of your wheeling machine and the lower anvils that you have available will go a long way in determining which style of procedure you might want to spend the most time learning. There will be no lack of opinions on that thought process here on the forum.

Kent, the Tinman, is on the west coast here in the US. Peter often visits the US each year and teaches wheeling machine classes and Patman teaches classes and is in the very center of the US.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:13 PM
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Hi Jay,
Make sure your upper and lower rolls are aligned:
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Not leaving tracks like this.


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But nice even tracks like this.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:40 PM
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Mr. White has a nice informative and very affordable booklet on wheeling available through his site. Tinmantech.com. He also has several videos available on the subject. Peter Tommasini's videos are excellent as well.(Handbuilt.net.au)



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Old 09-20-2018, 12:13 PM
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Hi Jay,
Having an assortment of geometries to practice is helpful:
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3003, .040 and .050, half hard or fully annealed

These were created by Howard Booster, a student of mine, in an effort to test his ability with the TM Air Hammer, but some of these shapes can be made with the Wheel.


Another geometry to practice is the gentle reverse:
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3003, .050, half hard
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for the pointers. Will have a look into all the suggestions. (Hopefully being UK based won't be an issue with books and videos.)
The wheel is 10mm plate (made for Contour Autocraft) rather than cast, but I believe it's a step up from the tubular designs.
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