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billfunk29 03-25-2020 12:13 PM

Cooper technica - three olives
 
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/shop-use...171800124.html
Nice pictures of "three olive" machine

Jaroslav 03-25-2020 05:28 PM

Is there some video machine at work? I would like to see the result of shaping. Machine options.:confused::confused:

BTromblay 03-25-2020 09:01 PM

Very interesting. I had heard that there was an olive machine in the Milwaukee area. He also has a French Martinet power hammer, which would be the fourth known unit in the States and the second one in Wisconsin.

Bill

Blackfinger 03-26-2020 06:19 AM

Found a little bit more...
http://www.allmetalshaping.com/showthread.php?t=17416

Jaroslav 03-26-2020 06:57 AM

I read another fairy tale about Olive Maschine. The discussion moved away from the basic theme towards some hammers on long-pole. Probably a good thing, but watch out for your hands.:mad::mad:

My question is clear. Is there a video on how to work with Olive and the resulting product? Or is it all in the corner of the workshop, everyone talks about it and no one can use it ??
I would like to end the fairy tales and I am interested to see in the machine at working.

Thank you learen lessons.:)

norson 03-26-2020 02:02 PM

I've seen a video of one being used to shape a Model A type fender. Only a one or two minute video, but it gave you a feel for how it was used. They would feed the metal though the portion of the roller that would give them the shape they were after. They would "lift" the paddles on the bottom to force the shape. I'm guessing they were utilized to form the general shape and then other tools were used to finish. I was at a metal working workshop and saw what I think was a miniature one that was two feet long.

Jaroslav 03-26-2020 03:00 PM

Okay, Norm. What is the product after stretching through the machine? Gutter? Is it bent somewhere? Is it bent in or out?
I want to understand the principle. So far for me it is a machine on which somebody sometimes did something and nobody knows what. But everyone knows it. I do not know. I like revealed secrets. Maybe from fairy tales. Or from girls' rooms? It's about what's better.

But technical secrets are safer.:D
And it looks historic. Something from in the first equipment of the pyramid.

norson 03-26-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaroslav (Post 161051)
Okay, Norm. What is the product after stretching through the machine? Gutter? Is it bent somewhere? Is it bent in or out?
I want to understand the principle. So far for me it is a machine on which somebody sometimes did something and nobody knows what. But everyone knows it. I do not know. I like revealed secrets. Maybe from fairy tales. Or from girls' rooms? It's about what's better.

But technical secrets are safer.:D
And it looks historic. Something from in the first equipment of the pyramid.

You would pick the size olive for the fender you're making. The sheet would be inserted between the upper and lower rollers. The upper screws could be tightened to push the rollers together. The lower screws (each side) push the "paddles" up to make the fender curve. The video I saw showed a powered roller. They were saying that the roller could be moved side to side, applying more pressure on one side or the other of the olive to influence the shaping as needed. Keep in mind the only make partial panels and would be most practical for parts that have sweeping curves.

Jaroslav 03-26-2020 04:54 PM

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Thank Norm. I kind of imagine it, but I'd like to see it. Gentlemen don't worry and turn on the miracle and make a video for sheet metal forming archeology.

In the past, I made an experiment of principle in EW. In EW it works very well. But probably different than on the that writes about him legend.

http://allmetalshaping.com/showthread.php?t=18665

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Kerry Pinkerton 03-26-2020 05:03 PM

William Longyard is a friend of Muhammad Awadi and has been in his shop several times. I seem to remember a video of the machine in action but can't recall where I saw it or who posted it.


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